September 28, 2016 at 8:52 pm
Like I said yesterday, this so-called Doc Banda must stop being childish and grow up. Sir, learn to pay your bills and people will respect you. Fake traitor and tribalist. HH did well to pick GBM for running mate position instead of you. You never even campaigned and yet you are crying the loudest. So childish. Does it hurt to simply leave in peace that these tantrums of a toddler?
September 29, 2016 at 6:45 am
Dr. Banda is an intelligent surgeon. Some of you survives because of politics. My brother has an excellent medical mind. In case you may not know, it is because Dr. Banda has a passion to save his country. Other doctors of his magnitude are already in the UK, Australia, even in South Africa. Dr. Banda, kodi mwatani mbale wanga, mwaibara those grades mbale wanga, distinctions in all the subjects, physics, mathematics Biology chemistry English. Mbale wanga asiyeni a Tonga kapatulua ndi nchito zao. Sadziwa kakhalidwe ndi anzao ai. Angati anali a Lozi or wachibemba, zonsezi ngakunakhara kulibe.
It was you my brother who motivated me to read for all the degrees.I remember my brother you saying, it will not only be Kamuzu to be called Doctor Banda, nainunso muzakhala a doctor. My brother, you got distinctions at Ridgeway (UNZA) and another distinction in Tokyo, in public health. My brother you can survive. Ise a Chewa ndise ambili mbili, koma uphunzila ndese ochepe. Mbale wanga, we need you alive, kuno Ku Katete.
September 29, 2016 at 2:41 pm
what a f.o.o.l.ish man this canisius banda is. he thot he was clever and HH would watch while he destroyed the party dinning with PF and having phone conversations with ka edgar chakolwa i.d.i.o.t lungu. Go away you canisius banda. Zwa!!! Choka!!! fuma makaka!!! WELLDONE HH AND THE UPND TEAM. THIS MAN DID NOT DESERVE TO BE VP!!
September 28, 2016 at 9:32 pm
Pwanya what? Whatever you call yourself, you stink. How can a human being have an insult as identity and all that comes from your mouth is just unpallatables. ISSUES please, not TISSUES.
September 30, 2016 at 6:14 am
Dr. Canisius Banda, I have read everything in this, your post. But tell me, why can’t you simply respond to the allegations levelled against you instead of becoming defensive and personal? Now I believe that the allegations against you are TRUE. Your stance is not correct. You talk about etiquette, and rightly so. But you, yourself have forgotten that you need to tow the line of etiquette. You clearly are so personal in this letter. I am a Tonga from Pemba but I don’t understand why you had to pick on my hometown to desperage us. Let me tell you that people from Pemba are not tribalists. What I know is that all this thing tibalism is meant to seek sympathy yet the people you’re clearly targeting as ‘hounding you out’ of UPND are neither Tonga nor are they from Pemba. They are all easterners like you (i.e. Thole, Chuzu, Banda). What is your real point here sir? Your contact with PF, don’t you think it would have done better to have been informing your superior about it than keep quiet until people begin to suspect you? If you didn’t see this coming, then you are not wise, sir. I had so much respect for you but this… this, has done it!
September 28, 2016 at 9:48 pm
There is no smoke without fire. When I was young, i never accepted that Tonga’s are tribal. In fact it is true not all are tribalist. But the majority are. A Tonga does not care about someones feelings. If i was HH, why hurry to post a letter on the internet for a colleague you have been tire gassed together. Why not wait even if it takes three months, wait until you get hold of him. That was wrong. All those surrounding HH now are only doing it for money. Genuine members of the part are the foot soldiers, and not those who claim I have brought money to the party.
Tekele Banda is not a genuine member of the UPND at all. He is in it for survival. If I was HH, i would consider Dr. Banda’s brains as key than populist GBM. You need intelligent, loyal members to a party also, not just insulting members such as GBM. Because of Dr. Banda’s departure, young vibrant intelligent men and women from other regions will think twice to join UPND. That was the difference with Mazoka. Mazoka cherished intelligence first. HH has lacked that tactic. He is the best man to read UPND, but he must take a deep breath. Do not do away with sharp minds that easily, especially if they come from another region. Those are your assets to sing your song. You can have the Hamelengwes, Ndulo’s in other regions they are not respected because they think they are in it for regionalism. If I was HH, I would have held on to the letter, first, until I seek direct audience with Canisius Banda.
September 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Perfect you are perfectly wrong in your tribalism assessment. I do not know all the facts about this HH and Dr Banda’s kerfuffle ( kafwafwa) so I am not going to comment on the merits and demerits thereof. I am a non Tonga who grew up in Tongaland, maybe like you as you claim . But I can confidently say its not the majority of Tongas who are tribalists, but a minority, same proportion as other tribes in Zambia. If you want to stretch your line of thinking, you can maybe say the majority non tribal Tongas are not doing enough to counter the minority tribal Tongas but again its not a unique situation for Tongas, happens with other tribes and humanity at large, that is, good citizens not standing up against the bad
September 30, 2016 at 12:39 am
Bembas are tribal! Lozis are tribal and every language is tribal! Lets not run away from this fact! The reason why Bembas and Tongas have a high tone among other tribes its only because of the two prominent political parties PF vs UPND. Can a tonga win in Northen province as minister?…. NO! Can a Bemba or Chewa win in Southern Province as minister?…. Yes. Now analyse the issue of tribalism with a sane mind with examples!
September 30, 2016 at 5:47 am
The days of weaked are numbered this is time for you to go.
September 28, 2016 at 9:54 pm
DR. C. BANDA, I AM EMBARASSED MYSELF, ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO YOUR PRESIDENT. HOW CAN YOU RIDICULE HIM IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS IF INDEED HE WAS YOUR FRIEND? STOP TELLING LIES. YOU WERE SIMPLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKED, NOT TURN AROUND AND START BARKING, COMPLAINING AND DEROGATING YOUR LEADER AND UPND. YOU DID NOT DESERVE TO BE THE NO. 2 LEADER IN UPND, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. YOU HAVE SHAMELESSLY EXPOSED YOURSELF.
September 28, 2016 at 9:56 pm
HH did the right thing to suspend Dr CB becoz he was no longer acting in the interest of UPND.He was now selling the secrets of the Party. HH has been vindicated. Let Dr CB defect to PF and get a job from Lungu. Dr CB will join the PF Gravy train and enjoy the fruits of electoral theft and fraud. Mapenz Chibulo sacrificed her life in vain so that Dr CB can enjoy hiself. What a treacherous Doctor?
September 28, 2016 at 9:59 pm
Whether, he joins pf or not Dr. Banda is a surgeon. He is a public health specialist. He is a pediatrician too. I disagree with you on selling secrets to PF. HH is a better man to read the UPND, but he must never act in a hurry to do away with sharp minds from other regions. Yes politics is a bout numbers, but one must be careful with which numbers matter and to do away with. UPND has always been my party, but I now ask, if my brother with distinctions can be treated like that who am I to stay there. You like it or not, Lungu will remain President for Zambia and he looses nothing by your calling him a fraud. UPND has a better chance of forming government five years from now, but must first of all recruit sharp minds from other regions. That is the difference between HH and Lungu. Lungu works with sharp minds from other regions first, before he considers his own. You can have Ndulo, Hamalengwe, Hansungule, but the mere fact that they all come from one region, people trivialize their political assessments. HH, meet Dr. Banda the two of you and get his opinion. That is what leadership is all about, not to be pressured by a party card. HH, in life one intelligent mind is worth a billion rich fools. I would not afford to loose Canisius Banda at the moment if I was in your shoes. Do not even compare Pastor Nevers Mumba with Dr. Banda. Mumba is a crook. Banda maybe poor, but is sharp. If I were you, I would have made him the spokes person for UPND and bring him closer. There are a lot of intelligent poor people who would want to contribute to Mazoka’s party, but they are discouraged by your tribes mate surrounding you.
September 29, 2016 at 3:26 pm
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Dr I salute you. Don’t mind what this idiot from pemba has written, he is just defending his tribesman. The wise shall leave UPND this bantustan kantemba
September 29, 2016 at 12:26 am
Banda must also write a letter to lungu en advice him in a wako Ni wako program – to stop ✋ dancing 💃 wen called in an important meeting -A leader-without a vision will only 💃dance.
Robert Sulamoyo jr
September 29, 2016 at 4:21 am
@ mj bannda, this hate that you are habouring aimed at the tonga tribe will choke you one day.Remember, kambwili was almost choked because of his deep rooted hate for the tribe.Sober up young man.Hate is of the devil.Unless you are one,your hate makes sense,son of the devel.
September 29, 2016 at 6:33 am
Dr CB the UPND Achilles heel! How could he spin such a boring long letter than making it simple and precise responding to the purported letter of his suspension? Read his title reference to HH…..RE: GROSS MISCONDUCT YOURSELF, ….. since its a response one would have expected:………RE: GROSS MISCONDUCT MYSELF……. if the letter is indeed a response. However it seems a far cry from being one its a web embracing a cry for help of a troubled soul!
September 29, 2016 at 1:26 am
These fake Drs in Zambia. What a shame. HH did not only help him financially but gave him the position of VP from nowhere leaving out many trusted people. The VP position has given this guy some recognition and he would have been third in line had the electoral thieves not stole votes. I think Banda needs to be appreciative and he should know where he is going in PF these are thugs without morals or humility. Evil knows of no friend they will destroy him unlike these false accusations his making against HH.
A true Zambian
September 29, 2016 at 1:52 am
Sounds like Canicious was Just a floating bomb.
He is a judas. Luckily HH has Always been doing The right thing otherwise this idiot was going to disclode it all.
Go and eat with your fellow hyenas but Mark that The days & smiles for pf are short.
You want to work with your fellow tribesmen not a tonga.
People like you cannot accept to Be led by another tribe.
September 29, 2016 at 2:59 am
The integrity and character of Dr CB says a lot. Its just as well he was suspended b4 he could cause further damage to the Party. Clearly Dr CB was not qualified to be a UPND VP.He has sold out to his fellow tribesmen in PF. Let Lungu give him a job as PS at Ministry of Health but given Dr CB’s behaviour and character his stay will be short lived. Dr CB does not understand what it means to join a violent and visionless PF Party.Let him join the Lungu gravy train and enjoy the fruits of electoral theft and fraud. Very soon Dr CB will be hounded out of PF and the govt job. Dr CB has sold out to HH and UPND for 3 pieces of silver. Goodbye Dr CB and the sacrifices of heroines like Mapenzi Chibulo will hound him for rest of his life.Time will tell.
September 29, 2016 at 4:23 am
So ba Carnivorous or is it Cannisius you have been having private phone calls with the reason for our suffering, Edgar himself? And you what to make it sound as if you where doing us s favour. You a green snake in green grass. You can’t be trusted, and know that with mistrust as your tag, you are doomed forever.
September 29, 2016 at 5:15 am
It’s so sad that even those perceived to be learned in this country can sink so low and peddle tribal hate, in your letter of lamentations as usual, you have mentioned a number of people William banda, mr thole and mr chuzu as people fighting you in upnd and further on your have mentioned the provincial chairperson not by her name but her tribe, this clearly shows that some people in this country have no say on anything happening in this country as long as they are tonga they should remain quiet, i never knew you are a tribalist like chama.
September 29, 2016 at 5:40 am
He is a product of wako Ni wako — let him go
Robert Sulamoyo jr
September 29, 2016 at 6:03 am
Agreed, educated or not tribal stupidity reigns, I do not know why???
He could have just left, because clearly he has been courting PF and he is clearly hungry, the poor pilgrim!
September 29, 2016 at 6:09 am
Chama has never been a tribalist, but spoke what is true. If one says for a Tonga to make it as president, they must produce, and have more wives, is not tribal at all. Look at what happened, dundumwezi voted in mass, but they still could not make it to produce a president. The problem is failure to accept that my brothers and sisters in Southern province are few. The earlier it sinks the better. Bemba speaking people are the majority you like it or not. Mazoka knew that, and he had to assemble many of them in his team. HH almost got it now, but you do not recruit them at the last minute.
Mwanawasa also knew they were the majority and he made sure a VEEP came from the two groups. HH will be president but can he take a deep breath, and sober up, accept he lost, and ask the same group of people you like calling thieves to build Zambia together. Hate speech against Easterners and Bembas will take UPND nowhere.Mazoka was real good at noticing which Bemba can help him. Bembas are not difficult people as you purport.
September 29, 2016 at 4:01 pm
Applying the WAKO NI WAKO formula best known in eastern! CB has disappointed me in his rhetoric response.. A learned person should not respond like a grade 8.
September 30, 2016 at 5:56 am
A slag-fest in the press. You should have served him that letter mwe bantu!? Why is it that in Zed laws are treated like loose ethics code in a village where a chief will overrule it anytime??
September 29, 2016 at 6:58 am
This fake Doctor is a bastard and traitor. What a stupid letter! Njala ya munyokola. He is a very ungrateful idiot.
September 29, 2016 at 6:59 am
The biggest problem with our brothers from Southern province is to consider those with opposing views as poor, thieves, monkeys. You cannot win as President of Zambia without Eastern, northern, luapula, and Urban votes. The strategy should be how do we get these votes. Calling one of their own, as bastard, poorer and so on, makes genuine Bemba’s and Easterners chill. You cannot receive Nevers Mumba at the last hour and you think he will contribute something to the party. No. He is simply another crook rejected by his own brothers.
UPND must always have a think tank from another region to help scrutinize genuineness.Parading regional scholars is taking politics like a beauty contest. Forget about Neo Simuntanyi. Hansungule Ndulo before you form government. These do not add any value to political intellectualism at all before government is formed, but when that is done. Note that they are not qualified men of Zambia, but their contribution is clouded with regional sentimentalism and they are easily dismissed when they talk.
Dr. Banda was playing that role, intellectualism in UPND. Kicking him out was a big mistake. I hope HH will find time to directly call or look for Dr. Banda. You see to form government, one must not behave like a boss at a company. You may not know that even late Sata used to call people to join him. Even Mazoka did the same. HH must make it ease for people to access him, not surrounded by tribes men who you think are protecting you. They tell you nothing different at all, but what you want to hear.
September 29, 2016 at 3:48 pm
Yaba,are these the kind of Doctors we have in hospitals? if this is the case then we are not safe.I thought that they can only write jagon in terms of prescription now even letters are written like it is drug prescription.
September 29, 2016 at 7:04 am
ANGER!FRUSTRATION! I sincerely hope Doctor Banda will refute he authored that letter. No matter what he feels HH did terribly wrong to him. The issues that Dr Banda raises in the letter do not in any way put Dr. Banda in a wonderful light. That letter takes away so much respect and trust from Dr Banda and adds so much value to HH’s character. In that letter Dr Banda accuses the Constitutional Court of having stolen HH’s electoral victory. Indirectly, Dr Banda makes a statement in support of HH that the PF stole HH’s electoral victory. So, what is Dr Banda trying to achieve here? He accuses HH of practicing tribalism, yet it is the three wise men from the East that saw that he should be expelled from the party. In that line alone, Dr Banda has subtly exposed his underlying tribal traits. He wishes to stir hatred in the hearts of many people; perhaps from regions that have a bone to pick with people from certain regions – based on his differences with HH, that UPND is a party for Tongas, who are tribalists. Uniwittingly for a person that wishes to be identified as a poet or philosopher, he also exposed details of his telephone conversation with the President; H.E. Edgar Lungu. How will the President receive this news of his private conversation going public in this manner. Dr Banda could have waited for the ire in him to subside and then craft a reasonable letter, short, precise and topical. The truth is this: In case the PF give him a job today and something goes wrong tomorrow, is this the way he is going to leave the PF – write satirically about the PF leadership? It is very possible. Dr Banda has all the rights to be angry with HH and UPND and respond to their internal party matters. But Dr Banda is a professional medical doctor and he knows how the profession would have preferred him to handle this matter. In a professional and level headed manner.
Despite the way the fall out is panning out, this saga has wider connotations for the future of UPND. There are lessons that the UPND can learn from what Dr Banda has said. UPND should check itself and critically question the motives of whoever is advising the leadership to take such destructive punitive actions against senior leaders of the party so early after the 8/11 elections. The UPND should change tactics as soon as possible and find ways to hold not only the party together, but the over one million and seven hundred and sixty thousand officially known people that voted for the party together. UPND should quickly abandon the old approach of staying aloof of national affairs. The party needs exposure to grow nationally and this can be achieved by engaging in friendly activities, dialogue, attending important national and cultural, sports events – talking to PF, the people in government. The UPND should learn to wear a smiling face in public. Let the people love UPND because of the friendly face of the party. HH is the best placed person to lead the UPND into any future elections. However, UPND should consider seriously to call for a convention to elect its leaders. This is by far, not advocating that HH should vacate. He will be endorsed quite alright. But, the convention will help to transform the UPND into truly a national party with a democratic identity. A convention would also help the UPND to appreciate the intrigues of conducting elections, vying for power. The earlier the convention is held, the better for the UPND.
Finally, the UPND should seriously reconsider the way the party and party membership are managed. Political parties exist to grow their electoral bases. A party that cannot manage its membership effectively cannot expect to win elections. The UPND; you have over 1,760,000 people that voted for you across Zambia. Carry them with you to the next point of the journey.
There are so many lessons to be learnt from Dr Banda’s departure from the UPND; both for the UPND and the PF.
September 29, 2016 at 7:59 am
Dr you’re disloyal and disrespectful to your superiors.The best to do is just leave peacefully.Why did you leave mmd?Learn to be loyal Sir.
September 29, 2016 at 8:23 am
Lamentations indeed. Of course Dr Banda had to say smth. However, he should have known that a 100, a 1000 , a 1000000 or even a billion words from his mouth meant to disperse HH and the upnd are NOTHING! Come on Banda, HH is a big man, HH is a giant “collective”, just check your own admission, HH won two presidential elections! And now HH represents the masses not only those who want their VOTE BACK but also those who crave for the return of democracy and it’s tenets of Human Rights, that is as opposed to the imminent dictatorship. Who are you banda to think you could yap poems in your letter, heaping many words and you hope you will turn an iota of our minds against our comrade in arms HH? We are at the battle front, and HH is our able commander, he has noticed that you are playing with the enemy!! You think we can buy any of your poems?
Simply match away, you have failed to fight with us to the end, you want to eat with your tribesmen in pf. You… Not HH, are so tribal that you do not deserve even your academic doctorate, it’s not for tribalists like you.
Camukanka Hicamba TH
September 29, 2016 at 8:44 am
Was this man really a vice president of a second largest political party? How was he picked?
If he could wrote such nonsense like this then I’m worried had UPND won to have such calibre in high ranks. The wring is that of yoos. Just ready his responses on his face book. Words lik f…k
September 29, 2016 at 9:34 am
Dr CB has laid bare the character of HH. He is a small God in UPND. Even GBM was more vocal in the PF than he is now in UPND. In fact him along with Nevers have been reduced to HH praise singers.
But nevertheless , its more of leadership problem than tribalism. Mazoka built and left a nationalist and united UPND devoid of tribal connotations. HH used the tribe to rise to power and brought in Dr Banda and others for window dressing. It has clearly failed.
New leadership is required to change the character and culture of UPND for us to move forward not just in words but in deeds. The HH cultism and hero worshipping should end. Each time someone has a different view he is quickly hounded out.
Even our sponsored media, Zambian Watchdog portrays itself as cheap tabloid on steroids singing HH praises so blatantly at each and every turn. In fact, they initiated this same project to hound Dr CB out.
September 29, 2016 at 9:34 am
I meant if he could write
September 29, 2016 at 9:35 am
Dr. Canisius Banda has disappointed a lot of people in the manner he has handled this issue and therefore credit should be given to those that saw his childishness earlier by not making him a running mate and by charging him with misconduct. I had advised earlier that he should calm down and seek audience with HH as a credible way forward as opposed to expressing so much anger through this letter whose contents are mostly unwarranted and do not relate to the issues raised in the suspension letter.
He claims that he had a telephone conversation with President Lungu and shared the contents of the discussion with Dr. Nevers Mumba, who is actually not a member of the UPND executive. Where is etiquette and logic here?
September 29, 2016 at 10:13 am
Dr. Banda your departure from UPND have streangthened our party now because the one to takeup this important position which you terribly failed to provide leadership will be a deserving and powerful leader .Infact you have done us good to leave because you were our big Liability even we the people on the lower organs of our party we did not understand why we had a weak person like you on such very sensitive position .Thanks for allowing our party to come up with a Vibrant Leader to help HH ,GBM and many others to provide good leadership.
September 29, 2016 at 1:15 pm
Poverty and hunger in the midst of Dr banda is what is at the center stage of all this drama by Dr banda. Poverty stinks kanshi nashininkisha lelo.. Ubucushi bubi.
September 29, 2016 at 2:10 pm
he may be poor but has the brains.You may never be a surgeon yourself. Respect a person your relatives will run to in case they become ill. That is what Dr. Banda has in his brains
September 30, 2016 at 2:08 pm
DOC C.BANDA is not a factor in UPND, his leaving the party will never have negative aspect in the party.
September 29, 2016 at 2:29 pm
I see a lot of TRIBALISTS and “TUNNEL VISION CADRES” have all now migrated to this site after their TRIBAL PLATFORM was shut down.
It you people can’t see any sense in what Dr CB has said in this letter to your ka “little god”, it will a century for anyone from UPND to be President—that is if the Party will even survive that long!
HH, as Party President was the first DISRESPECT his own Vice, the person who stood by his side through thick and thin, by first sending the suspension letter to the media without first discussing or have the courtesy of handing it to him. Instead what do we get from the likes of Charles Kakoma, claims that they couldn’t find the Dr “because he is of no fixed abode!” The usual Modus Operandi that UPND SYCOPHANTS are in love with; SCANDALIZING ANYBODY WHO FALLS OUT OF FAVOR with a CLIQUE of TRIBAL WOLVES playing PUPPET MASTERS to HH.
If you think the HOUNDING of GB out of UPND will not bring back UGLY MEMORIES of how HH became your Party President, then you deserve an award for the MOST POLITICALLY NAIVE MUPPETS in Zambia! Take the cautions of CB very serious if at all you aspire to be a Political Party with a National Character. Otherwise are doomed for forever. Whether you want to believe it or not, the exit of Dr CB out of UPND has done more damage to your image you have so DESPERATELY trying to rebuild since the Senjeni ugly remarks of “ONLY A TONGA CAN BE A UPND PRESIDENT.” This departure will definitely remind people, once again, how people like Sakwiba Sikota and others were hounded out of UPND—this is the reason the Doc has wonder whether his treatment would have been different if he hailed from Pemba (Southern Province, hence Tonga) than Eastern Province (Non Tonga)
The TRIBAL TAG on UPND shouldn’t be carried around as a BADGE OF HONOR. It should be a SOURCE OF SHAME especially given its origins. Despite the likes of GBM in your midst, it will be hard for UPND to rid itself of this TRIBAL TAG after this. And that is exactly what saddens Dr CB and graciously warning HH about. Instead of REFLECTING on what the Doc is saying, all you doing is the same cr@p you were used to at ZWD—MINDLESS and CHILDISH GROUP THINK. Good luck!
September 30, 2016 at 8:19 am
The truth is that CB has never been a factor in UPND and even his exit wont get a chunk of followers with him. If it were GBM some of us would have pleaded with him to stay. Put someone with numbers in his place please UPND. Its surprising that such a person is infact a doctor! Yaba!
September 30, 2016 at 9:40 am
He is a doctor indeed, with distinctions, in every subject lolo. The man is sharp. Dr. Banda got six points at grade 12, and a distinction in pediatrics at the University of Zambia.He also earned first class in Tokyo in Public medicine. Please never question his academic achievements. Because the man used to say, it will not be only Kamuzu Banda to be crowned Dr. Banda in Medicine, naineso ndizakala doctor. True to his words he became. Ask HH he knows it.
September 30, 2016 at 12:27 pm
I beg to be educated on this issue: was there a UPND convention when Dr Banda was given the post of vice president for politics? My other comment is that Dr. Banda must have been very annoyed when he was writing this letter. It was good for you to have gone to HH and discuss this issue. HH should have done the same. May God bless you both.
October 2, 2016 at 9:23 pm
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